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    Warning to member [Only registered users can see links. Click here to Register] for spreading nifaq. This is shiaforums.com not nifaqforums. Spreading such things is not allowed here and you can leave if you can't follow the rules here in shiaforums.com

    Here are some Quran verses about how we should deal with munafiqun! (Not like mirza_hu thinks, he thinks we should love and respect them)

    This is Wahabi etc numbering (for mirza_hu and his likes).
    For Shia numbering add +1 to each Verse.

    Chapter:Verse

    4:88
    4:140
    4:142
    4:145

    9:73
    66:9


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    Dear may be you are right as you asked that i am spreading nifaaqbut please first define nifaaqis it nifaaq to find a way in order to establish unity among muslims?is this nifaaq to convey a message to muslims that we should not fight any more?if it is nifaaq then i am proud to be such a person.if i am spreading this kind of so called nifaaq then as you proposed that i should get out of this forum. so please guide me how to deactivate my account. coz in such a conditioni myself cant even dont want to stay here any more.ask yourself is this wrong to ask muslims stop fighting?i believe this is because of our disputes that America, europ etc got into iraq, afghanistan, and put their people in war.let me ask you if we might be united would they invade in iraq, afghanista?what i want to say is please stop fighting and be united,it is also true that there are lots of differences between shias and other sects but i think we should put these differences behindand come forward respecting each other's differences in aqaaid and other differences.because differences can never be justified by debates but they can be resolved with cool mind and rational thinking.in the end let me tell you that if you still think that i am not bearable for all shias here then i apologize for this and bann me otherwiseguide me how to deactivate my account.but if you think that spreading the message of unity, love and cooperation among all sects is not a bad thing and i am doing so then let me continue.thanks and regards.

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    I am not dear to you and you are not dear to me!
    Of course I am right and you are busted, spreading your fitna here.
    You know that we hate some individuals that you consider are righteous, we think they are the opposite. You saying let's not look at the differences but what we have in common and that means we have to not care and not hate them or that we even have to start to respect and like and in the end love them. That is what I mean you are munafiq you mask your dawa for mazhab that is batil, batil for us as we don't want it and don't need it.
    You said it yourself this time.
    See it is your way or the highway.
    It is not that you ask for peace love and understanding, but how, through Ibn Al-Sahak (Lnt)? Didn't he make so many wars and attacks that non Muslims now wonder was Islam spread by the sword? (Yes sword of Ibn Al-Sahak (Lnt) Munafiq-hu's hero).
    America is not slaughtering the Shia of Pakistan!
    It is because of the violence of Ibn Al-Sahak (Lnt) your hero that non Muslims think Islam is dangerous so they fear it and want to finish it.
    Respect our differences ? Meaning I have to respect Ibn Al-Sahak (Lnt) Asthagfirullah!

    This is beyond nifaq this is kufr I can't do that.

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    ok if you dont want a munafiq like me to be here then please bann meor let me know how to unsubscribe.what the hell with you people you just want to hate others, just because of the differences of aqeeda?you dont like others just because they dont believe what you believe?is this not extremism?of course it is extremism. and it is just because of the extremism by people like you america and other nations are defeatingmuslims.so many things in my mind i want to say but knowing that the person in front of me is an extremist i just dont want to argue.in the end either you bann me or tell me the way to deactivate.thanks and regards

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    What happened to love peace and understanding? Now we are extreme people and you gave up on us and want to leave us suddenly? So it is your way or the highway, it was all fine when you tried to spread your nifaq but when I told you stop that and it is not right then you gave up your dawa mission and want to go.
    Don't talk about America it is you sons of Ayousha (Lnt) who are slaughtering Muslims, just look at the Shias situation in so called Muslim countries when in America both Shia and your kind live side by side and none is bombing and killing the Shia there!

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    well you seems to be very aggressive person.
    i didnt say that i myself want to quite here rather i said that if it is shia's forum and you people dont want a so called
    munafiq here then i should quit because this kind of behavior creates more disputes among us.
    reread my post again, just dont jump to the conclusions without understanding.
    you did put alligation that the people killing shias i am one of those but for an instant of time you didnt think that if i would be one of those then how could i have come to this forum? how could i have bear your abuses upon umme momineen, and khulafaa salaasa?
    let me tell you that i am here with open mind you yourself showing extremism.
    you people are at one extreme while those who kill shias are at other extreme.
    and ALHAMDULILLAH i am one of those people who are moderate.
    we respect ahle bait, as well as we respect rest of sahaaba and all ummul momineen
    while those extremists think that NAUZUBILLAH Hussain was wrong.
    on the other hand extremists like you abuse sihaaba.
    what i want to say and i have said many times here that let us not fight upon these differences.
    let us be united.
    i said it before and again i m asking that if this is nifaaq then i will continue to do so.
    if you dont like my message of being united then there is only solution and that is my departure from this forum
    but if you think that spreading the message of unity is not a bad thing and that i will continue to do then you can allow me
    to be here and let me say what i want to say.
    hope u understand my message.

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    Munafiq_Hu!
    I understand your message, you say you want peace and love and understanding but at the same time your God/s Hero/s never was/were and never will be good, kind, smart, caring, loving, peaceful and accepted. So how are you supposed to get peace love and understanding if you have all this hatred, nifaq and filth in your heart (I mean your God/s Hero/s)?!
    Explain this!

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    before i answer your question let me know that whom you called my God? or hero?for your kind information as a muslim i believe in only one GOD and that is ALLAH.regarding heroes you might be refering khulafaa e salaasa.let me tell you that my ideal is Muhammad.after Him All sahaaba including khulafaa e rashida are my hero.may be 3 of them might be not acceptable for you, and that is matter i dont concern.here you commited two sins first you made me polytheist in spite of knowing that i am muslim ALHAMDULILLAHsecondly you insulted those personalities may be this is not a sin in your faith.but i have told you many times that if someone is insulting them this is not acceptable for me and any other non shia muslim.as this is a shia forum and you will continue to do this then there is a strong chance of disputes to be produced due to the reason that you will continue insulting and we will continue defending.as i asked that i dont want to fight and dont like hatered among muslims then to avoid disputes i should quite i should leave this forum.that is it.

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    No, don't go yet please! You believe in 1 God and it is Allah .
    How did you come to know about this 1 God Allah ?
    Through who? The caliphs you adore so much? What work for Islam did they do?
    They "conquered" and "converted" others into Islam? (meaning killed, raped, looted) What about? [Only registered users can see links. Click here to Register]
    Today it is martyrdom of Imam Sajjad (as) who wrote: [Only registered users can see links. Click here to Register]
    What did the caliphs you adore write?
    Are you even allowed to cry today on the martyrdom of Imam Sajjad (as)? You care so much about Muslims and the Imam (as) Is a Muslim so do you cry, read Al-Fateha and Ya-Sin for him today?

    So I mean your caliphs don't/didn't believe in and don't/didn't worship Allah so if you follow them you do what they do. Just like if we here would listen to you we would be dragged in that "religion".

    No wonder why you are running away!
    Last edited by SAMAR; 12-21-2011 at 03:20 PM.

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    you asked about caliphs that what did they do for islam
    a lot of things i have to say here but i want no more debate upon this matter.
    so no arguments from my side.
    i want no one to fight here but the same thing i am doing by continuing this debate.
    so from my side this debate is over.
    let us refer this matter to ALLAH and His Prophet
    May ALLAH justify this.
    in the day of judgment of course HE will do.
    i dont want to fight with you by continually arguing or giving proves.
    as for as from my side this debate is over i refer this matter to ALLAH and His Messanger

    sorry for any of my word caused you hurt.
    with hope you ll understand my message and will not try to prolong this debate any more.
    thanks and regards.

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    You don't simply come in SHIAForums and spread nifaq and when confronted think you can run away.
    If you run away then it means you are munafiq, your religion is nifaq and your God/s Hero/s are all munafiqon and in post #1 I quoted what Allah (STW) and His prophet Say we should do to munafiqon!
    To the Taboot off you go

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    Pls, move this thread.

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